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WELCOME TO THE SITE DEVELOPMENT PAGE

This is where we discuss and share ideas about developing this wiki.
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see also the Project Supporters and Scientolipedia is in Beta pages.


Contents

Thread titleRepliesLast modified
SEO Extension – Controlling what search engines use for a specific item/page315:16, May 21, 2018
.PNG file format not working017:56, December 19, 2017
Getting a glossary item to show when mouseover312:27, October 28, 2017
Making a footnote216:49, January 5, 2017
Images - Wiki Commons019:22, December 13, 2016
Template won't work318:03, November 25, 2016
Scientology Books Category015:23, July 2, 2016
Videos - Playing them on this website013:25, May 28, 2016
Images - file formats016:15, March 30, 2016
Images - Sizing015:23, February 27, 2016
Picture now missing on Alan C. Walter biography1217:21, December 4, 2015
Video Calls & Training016:12, November 22, 2015
How to get "category" at end of a page altered when creating an article?415:48, September 16, 2015
Developers Needed - Carreer opportunity116:46, September 14, 2015
Site upgrade314:37, August 5, 2015
New Skin322:04, April 1, 2015
Patrol607:14, February 18, 2015
Talk versus Discussion320:10, February 4, 2015
Keep Titles and URL's simple017:17, January 20, 2015
Signing your name014:21, January 20, 2015
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SEO Extension – Controlling what search engines use for a specific item/page

The SEO (search engine optimization) extension is now installed on the site and available for use. You can get an idea about it here

This allows us to give search engines a 'description', 'keywords' and 'title' for individual pages on the site.

  • The 'description' is what gets displayed beneath search results in google or other search engines.
  • The key words (or phrases) are not displayed but search engines scan pages for these and use them as a basis for when, where and how to list a page in search results.
  • The title can be adjusted if something should be appended to it or if the name should appear differently in searches than it does on the site.

The code is usually put at the bottom of pages and looks like this"


{{#seo:
|title=Your page title
|titlemode=replace
|keywords=these,are,your,keywords
|description=Your meta description
}}

Here is the actual code from this page:


{{#seo:
|title=Scientolipedia Site Development Forum
|titlemode=replace
|keywords=Scientolipedia,scienntolipedia site development,help scientolipedia,help tell the truth about scientology
|description=The Scientolipedia Site Development Page is a forum where users can get help with and share ideas about developing the Scientolipedia website.
}}

note:- the 'description' must not contain more than 170 characters.

There can be any number of 'key words' (or phrases) but good sense tells us not to go overboard - too many will be ineffective and may send a message to the search engines we are trying to spam them. Use relevant, common sense words or phrases which you think people might enter into a search query when looking for information on the topic of the page. They must be separated by comma's.

I will create more information about this new SEO feature and soon, I hope, it will be incorporated into the forms for pages so it will be a simple process to fill in the fields on the forms and the SEO will be taken care of that way.

To see how this looks embedded in the code, press Ctrl+U. A screen will pop up with the code for this page and you will find the "meta description", "meta keywords" and Title in the top section.

This new capability gives us greater control over the search engines and will increase traffic to the website. Yay!

Dl88008 (talk)00:11, February 20, 2015

Interesting. Seems worth trying to wrap ones wits around.

Antony A Phillips (talk)09:45, February 23, 2015
Edited by another user.
Last edit: 15:47, March 4, 2015

I have just added the following to the Steve Bisbey page (where I was adding a picture). Interesting task - you have to "imagine" the reality of countless searchers! Any comments, reverend Editor ( :-) ) :

#seo:
|title=Steve Bisbey

|titlemode=replace

|keywords=Bisbey, Bisby, TIR, Traumatic Incident Reduction, PTSD, Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, handling trauma, prepcheck, unblocking, deblocking, incident reduction

|description=Obituary and short biography of Steve Bisbey, who was a mental health practitioner and author resident in the London Home Counties.

That does not quite duplicate what I wrote - Any one can see what I actually wrote (perhaps only if logged in) by pressing edit for the last section of the page, and then pressing cancel when they have looked.

What does |titlemode=replace do?

Antony A Phillips (talk)09:00, March 4, 2015
 

More information about this extension here

Dl88008 (talk)21:09, March 15, 2015
 

.PNG file format not working

Reported and verified error message when trying to upload an image in the .png format.

"Fatal error: Call to undefined function iconv() in /home/dl88008/public_html/w/includes/media/PNGMetadataExtractor.php on lineThe military type of organization form whereby there is a definite ascending and descending chain of command. Orders pass from top management down the line of command and compliances and data pass on up without by-passing the chain of command. (Modern Management Defined (c) L. Ron Hubbard, 1976) 249"

Workaround is to change image files to .JPG, which works, until the issue with .PNG is fixed.

Will postA position from which a terminal operates in an org, where one knows that somebody is at. (FO 2200) fix notice here.

Dl88008 (talk)17:56, December 19, 2017

Getting a glossary item to show when mouseover

On the Jack Horner page right at the top I removed apostrofi after ACCAdvanced Clinical Course - ACC - one of a number of theory and research courses delivered by L. Ron Hubbard during the years 1953 to 1961, which gave a deep insight into the phenomena of the mind and the rationale of research and investigation.. This resulted in the definition of ACCAdvanced Clinical Course - ACC - one of a number of theory and research courses delivered by L. Ron Hubbard during the years 1953 to 1961, which gave a deep insight into the phenomena of the mind and the rationale of research and investigation. no longer showing up when you put the mouse cursor over it. Is there a handling of this?

Antony A Phillips (talk)15:31, January 5, 2017

No, as far as the computer is concerned, removing the apostrophe changes the word to four letters.

If you want to be syntactically correct AND show the definition - do something like...

"He ran [[ACCAdvanced Clinical Course - ACC - one of a number of theory and research courses delivered by L. Ron Hubbard during the years 1953 to 1961, which gave a deep insight into the phenomena of the mind and the rationale of research and investigation.]]s..."

or

"He ran [http://scientolipedia.orgShort for organization. (HCO PL 8 Sept 69)/info/ACCAdvanced Clinical Course - ACC - one of a number of theory and research courses delivered by L. Ron Hubbard during the years 1953 to 1961, which gave a deep insight into the phenomena of the mind and the rationale of research and investigation. ACCAdvanced Clinical Course - ACC - one of a number of theory and research courses delivered by L. Ron Hubbard during the years 1953 to 1961, which gave a deep insight into the phenomena of the mind and the rationale of research and investigation.'s]..."

Which will give either

This "He ran ACCs..."

or

This "He ran ACC's..."

Dl88008 (talk)15:47, January 5, 2017

OR - you could create a new glossary item for "ACCsAdvanced Clinical Courses - ACCs - one of a number of theory and research courses usually delivered by L. Ron Hubbard during the years 1953 to 1961, which gave a deep insight into the phenomena of the mind and the rationale of research and investigation. They were the highest training level, senior to professional auditor (HPA/HCA) and Bachelor of Scientology (B.Scn.), and were experimental. Jack Horner was the only other person who was in charge of an ACC." (with the same definition as for "ACCAdvanced Clinical Course - ACC - one of a number of theory and research courses delivered by L. Ron Hubbard during the years 1953 to 1961, which gave a deep insight into the phenomena of the mind and the rationale of research and investigation.") and the mouse-over will work for when that is used.

Dl88008 (talk)16:04, January 5, 2017

First solution didn't work as it rooted me to the glossary item rather than showing the glossary item when I'm asked over the words. I think I'll work on the other solution tomorrow thank you.

Antony A Phillips (talk)16:57, January 5, 2017
 
 
 

Making a footnote

I've lost the data on how I make a footnote. Can you give me a hint.

Antony A Phillips (talk)15:11, January 5, 2017

http://scientolipedia.org/info/Help:FAQ%27s#cite_references_by_number

Dl88008 (talk)15:26, January 5, 2017

Great, thank you. I made it work on the Jack Horner article.

Antony A Phillips (talk)16:49, January 5, 2017
 
 

Images - Wiki Commons

Images on Wikimedia Commons can be displayed on this site without having to upload them to our server.

One simply copies the file name from wikimedia commons with the wiki syntax normally used to display images on a page and it magically appears on our site - as if we had it on our server.

This image at Wikimedia Commons:

[[File:Vervain hummingbird (Mellisuga minima).jpg|200px]]

Becomes this pic here: (with no downloading or uploading necessary) Vervain hummingbird (Mellisuga minima).jpg

Dl88008 (talk)19:22, December 13, 2016

Template won't work

I have made a template at:http://scientolipedia.org/info/Template:LRHbook1951 . I have tested it at:http://scientolipedia.org/info/Self_Analysis and it doesn't work. Can you see what I've done wrong or failed to do? All best wishes, Antony

Antony A Phillips (talk)14:01, November 24, 2016

It's fixed.

Just add the following to any page you want the template included:

{{LRHbook1951}}
Dl88008 (talk)12:53, November 25, 2016

Also removed the "pre" tag n the template so the links will display where the template is used.

Dl88008 (talk)13:36, November 25, 2016

Many thanks, Antony.

Antony A Phillips (talk)18:03, November 25, 2016
 
 
 

Scientology Books Category

The Scientology Books Category is new and a sub-category of the Library Category

At a future date, when development catches up with our ideas, all of these will be included in a master category called 'Scientology Materials' wherein we will utilize the advanced features of this website's ability to organize the data about the materials via form fields as we do now with other areas such as Auditor pages, Personal Profile pages (biographies), Glossary pages and others.

The Scientology Books Category needs pages created for ALL of the Scientology books. (only about a half a dozen have been created thus far) A digital copy which is downloadable from this website needs to be uploaded along with a picture of the book.

NOTE: the above are the minimal requirements for each page. Each page needs further edits to include a full description of the book, publish date, ISBN number and any other information concerning the book so that anyone coming to the site can readily get a comprehensive description of the book.

NOTE 2: The digital copies have not been verified for accuracy. The project to verify and certify 100% faithful replicas of the original works is a much broader project than this site is able to undertake at this time but we encourage anyone with verified copies to contact us with them so we may replace the ones we have if they are lacking in some regard from the original works of L Ron Hubbard

We appreciate any help you can give on this project.

Dl88008 (talk)15:12, July 2, 2016

Videos - Playing them on this website

The easy way for us to play videos is to use a simple code on a web page so the page will display and play a video from a video service like Youtube, Vimeo etc.

E.g. Vimeo code (a Youtube video would be the same except the name Youtube would replace Vimeo in the code):

{{#widget:Vimeo|id=14485635|width=600|height=500}}

The above code identifies the video as coming from Vimeo, its "id"(taken from the url for the video), and it's height and width.

This is a fast and simple way to place videos on pages.

The more difficult way to display a video is when we want to put the video on our own server and play it.

In this casethe whole sum of past by-passed charge. (HCOB 19 Aug 63) we need to upload the video to our server in Two Different Formats so the video will play on all browsers as well as on mobile devices such as phones and tablets.

E.g. A typical video will be in ".wmv" format which needs to be converted to ".mp4" and ".webm" formats. (a 150MB video in .wmv format will typically take 1 1/2 hours each, to convert to the two needed formats.

Each separate formatted video needs to then be uploaded to our server - which can take approx 1/2 hour for a 150MB file.

A "poster" image then needs to be uploaded. This is the image seen on the video screen prior to playing.

A sample of the code we then put on the page:

<HTML5video width="600" height="500" autoplay="false" loop="false" poster="TheFactofClearing_image.PNG">580704 CCAbbreviation for 1. Celebrity Centre, 2. Clearing Course. (Modern Management Technology Defined (C) 1976).-01  THE FACT OF CLEARING</HTML5video>

The above includes the usual height, width parameters as well as the name of the video file and name of the poster to be used.

For a full description of the software used to display videos on our server see:https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:HTML5video

Summary It is far easier to display videos hosted on outside services like Youtube and Vimeo than it is to host them on our own servers.

In rare cases, where we want to preserve the material to ensure it will always be available, the extra effort is well worth the extra work.

Dl88008 (talk)13:20, May 28, 2016

Images - file formats

If you have trouble uploading an image, try changing the file format.

We recently had someone try uploading an image in the ".tif" format but when we changed the format to ".png" the upload went smooth.

In the above situation the file also had an odd naming scheme with an extra dot "." in it. It was something like "imagename.something.tif". The extra dot "." may have been causing the trouble or the ".tif" format.

The above was also a very large image. (see postA position from which a terminal operates in an org, where one knows that somebody is at. (FO 2200) re Image sizing)

All the issues were resolved using "Paint.

  • Image resized
  • Image renamed (omitting the extra dot ".") and saving it as a ".png" format.

After which, the images uploaded as smooth as butter.

Post here if any other difficulties.

Dl88008 (talk)16:15, March 30, 2016

Images - Sizing

One suggestion for images is to make them smaller BEFORE uploading.

Cel phones, tablets and cameras often produce a very large image (1500px X 1200px or some such) which will take up the full computer screen if not reduced in size.

Although the website software can order the image to present itself on a page in a smaller size, if a site visitor clicks on the image and goes to the original, they'll be sort of blasted with the gigantic image in its original size.

So whyThat basic outness found which will lead to a recovery of stats. (HCO PL 13 Oct 70 II) not take a few seconds and resize it before uploading?

It's easy.

I use "Paint" which comes with all Windows operating systems but there are many image handling applications which will do the trick as well.

Right click on the image in your computer > Select "open with" > Paint.

From the top select "Resize" > select 50% (to cut the image down to half its current size) > SAVE AS (give the file a new name if desired)

Done

Now upload the more reasonably sized image to the website.

Dl88008 (talk)15:23, February 27, 2016

Picture now missing on Alan C. Walter biography

http://scientolipedia.org/info/Alan_C._Walter

The last picture, large one on the left, is now missing (frame still there)

Antony A Phillips (talk)11:39, December 2, 2015

For some unknown (to me) reason, it looks like five files uploaded between November 18 and November 22 did not survive the recent site move.

You can see them here:

http://scientolipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:NewFiles

Try re-uploading one of them, with the same file name preferably, and see if it then displays correctly on the page. (if you re-upload with a different file name then the page where it's used will have to be edited as well)

It that works, upload the remaining.

Dl88008 (talk)14:11, December 2, 2015

Um! That means I've got to find four pictures and upload them again. Keep me busy! Thanks for info.

Antony A Phillips (talk)15:58, December 2, 2015

The picture is back in place on Alan C.Walter's page. Fairly effortless. Now for the other three.

Antony A Phillips (talk)14:10, December 3, 2015

Problem! With the first one (and I expect the others are the same, they're made by the same photographer at the same time). Warning reads: This file is bigger than the server is configured to allow. and: Maximum file size: 2 MB. Under Windows Explorer it says that the file is – size: 3,51 MB Can you reconfigure the server?

Antony A Phillips (talk)14:43, December 3, 2015

I changed a setting to allow up to 50MB - try it and let me know.

Dl88008 (talk)19:18, December 3, 2015
 
 
 
 
 

Video Calls & Training

We have a Skype group set up to use for video calls and training on the software.

Anyone can join, or ask to join, by contacting "dklacroix" on Skype or following this link. https://join.skype.com/ybRwHNQpMSof

We'll have regular online meetings to help people learn to use the wiki software by demonstrating it through the screen-sharing capabilities of the free Skype service.

Dl88008 (talk)16:12, November 22, 2015

How to get "category" at end of a page altered when creating an article?

Recent article I have put in, have come up as category articles, despite the fact that in the rh upper box I have put them as History of Scientology. At the end of the article in a page wide box, the category of articles appears and I can not see how to alter that.

Antony A Phillips (talk)08:51, May 16, 2015

You don't want to alter that Category at the bottom of the page.

The data structure of mediawiki is primarily built on Categories as you see listed at the bottom of the page. (there can be more tan one)

The "properties" you see in the infoboxes are a different and separate way of organizing data. The full description of this is too complicated to answer here but you can see all the categories and properties from your "adminA contraction or shortening of the word administration, admin is used as a noun to denote the actions involved in administrating an organization. (Modern Management Technology Defined (C) 1976). links" page. (if we do a Skype sometime I can go into more detail)

Dl88008 (talk)13:47, May 16, 2015
Edited by another user.
Last edit: 15:48, September 16, 2015

Maybe time you Skyped. or something.

We have at the end of one article: [[Category:Library]][[Category:Books about Scientology]] But when I actually go and look (as an ordinary citizen) at Books about Scientology, Lo and Behold, there are only two books. Would I be liable to an SPSuppressive Person: 2. a person who rewards only down statistics and never rewards an up statistic. He goofs up or vilifies any effort to help anybody and particularly knifes with violence anything calculated to make human beings more powerful or intelligent. A suppressive automatically and immediately will curve any betterment activity into something evil or bad...More order if I edited the end of All articles about MetaScn books (like the one I have just made) and added in the end: [[Category:Books about Scientology]]  ?

PS: This (letter above) does not make sense, because things in square brackets are omitted. What I want to add at the end of those article is square bracket square bracket Category:Books about Scientology end square bracket end square bracket.

Antony A Phillips (talk)12:36, July 4, 2015

The information in the upper right infobox is separate and different from the use of categories...even though it uses the word "category" there. Those infobox "properties" are used to runUndergo processing. (Science of Survival, p.75) queries on pages.

e.g. see the auditor1. one who listens and computes; a Scn practitioner. 2. one who has been trained in the technology of Scn. An auditor applies standard technology to preclears. 3. a person who through church training becomes skilled in the successful application of Dn and Scn to his family, friends and the public to achieve the ability gained as stated on the Gradation Chart for his class of training...more listings page where the data from auditor1. one who listens and computes; a Scn practitioner. 2. one who has been trained in the technology of Scn. An auditor applies standard technology to preclears. 3. a person who through church training becomes skilled in the successful application of Dn and Scn to his family, friends and the public to achieve the ability gained as stated on the Gradation Chart for his class of training...more infoboxes are used to print out a variety of different listings based on the various "properties" on auditor1. one who listens and computes; a Scn practitioner. 2. one who has been trained in the technology of Scn. An auditor applies standard technology to preclears. 3. a person who through church training becomes skilled in the successful application of Dn and Scn to his family, friends and the public to achieve the ability gained as stated on the Gradation Chart for his class of training...more pages. http://scientolipedia.org/info/Auditor_Listings

The Categories part of the website are used to organize the data in broad categories. We add pages to categories by adding the wiki markup syntax such as [[Categgory:xyzabc123]] to the bottom of the page.

We'll have a Skype session soon to help clarify if the above is confusing. (likely) lol

Dl88008 (talk)16:53, July 4, 2015

Not confusing, thanks. I will go ahead with the {books ...} category. Thanks. Ant.

Antony A Phillips (talk)19:21, July 5, 2015
 
 
 
 

Developers Needed - Carreer opportunity

Anyone with experience developing web applications should consider developing for Scientolipedia.

Examples:

1. Brian Cox developed the iOS App for Scientolipedia as a dissemination tool but ALSO because he wanted to add this skill to his resume and eventually move into app dev for his career. Now we need someone to develop the android version. (Brian is willing to mentor and share with you what he learned from accessing the API for the iOS development)

2. There is a growing need for semantic mediawiki developers by large institutions. (the software this site uses) Look at the article about NASA using it and if you do a little research, you will find this is a growing niche.

We have a number of projects waiting for developers to step in and help bring them off.

The satisfaction you'll experience from knowing you are doing something positive to help disseminate truthful information about the SUBJECT of Scientology, it's people, history and the founder...makes adding a career skill at the same time a very wise choice.

Dl88008 (talk)16:54, September 6, 2015

I have passed this onto a friend who is about to retire. He helped me with the typesetting of IVy and has been working in a local council with their computers. All best wishes, Ant.

Antony A Phillips (talk)16:46, September 14, 2015
 

Site upgrade

Edited by author.
Last edit: 14:37, August 5, 2015

I'm in the process of upgrading the site software. This involved five major version upgrades (which includes about 8 point releasees each for a total of approx. 40 incremental upgrades) plus a couple dozen software extensions which make the site work. (maps require two extensions for example)

Most functionality has been restored but there are still some issues which I'm working through as quickly as possible. Below is a list of remaining items to fix - they'll get marked as "FIXED" as they're resolved.

Please reply with a note about anything you come across as not working.

  • FIXED facybox notice warning when using edit with form
  • FIXED (did a global find-and-replace of "frame" with "border") ...images with "frame" parameter displaying image as full size rather than specified size (changing it to "framless" instead fixes the sizing but I still need to figure out whyThat basic outness found which will lead to a recovery of stats. (HCO PL 13 Oct 70 II) the "frame" parameter doesn't work as before so that captions can work as well)
  • FIXED Dl88008 (talk) 09:37, August 5, 2015 (CDT) pop-up glossary not working (mouse over the word "affinity1. the feeling of love or liking for something or someone. Affinity is a phenomena of space in that it expresses the willingness to occupy the same place as the thing which is loved or liked...more" and you should see the new & improved smaller script displaying below the word rather than above it)
  • FIXED pages loading slow - upgrading the mediawiki software and the semantic mediawiki extension to the lates version haas sped up the site considerably (8-2-2015)
  • FIXED wiki editor warning when using edit with form. (wikieditor disabled in all forms except professional associations - leaving this as exmple for support persons to view)
  • FIXED - Header Tabs not working sitewide
  • FIXEDHeadertabs not working with forms
  • FIXEDauto-complete on category not working in success stories form
  • Arrays not working on new 'group' or 'auditors' forms - maybe others - needs to be checked
  • FIXED "edit with form" tab not showing on "Personal Profiles" pages, only "edit" tab.
  • FIXED (reverted to Vector skin) Flash MP3 not playing on CBR and Bevan Peece pages. Code is there but no show in Foreground skin.
  • FIXED SemanticAs used in this context, it refers to re-using data from web pages that would otherwise not be available anywhere other than the single web page it is published on. A Semantic Wiki like this one, is enhanced Wiki software (like this in-line glossary function) that is far more complex and sophisticated, with advanced data collection, display and reporting methods. It is able to make relationships in the presentation of data to the user in ways regular Internet applications cannot. Glossary broke with error message "Invalid or virtual namespace -1 given" after upgrading MW from 1.24.1 to 1.25.1
  • FIXED (8-2-2015 - server-side upgrade fixed this issue) Instant Commons is not working so that images from wikicommons are not displaying due to their change to https protoccol. (fix is I/P)
  • FIXED Cite extension broken after upgrade to 1.25.1
  • FIXED Dl88008 (talk) 14:47, August 3, 2015 (CDT) Calendar is broken since MW upgrade to 1.25 and will be until I can update SemanticAs used in this context, it refers to re-using data from web pages that would otherwise not be available anywhere other than the single web page it is published on. A Semantic Wiki like this one, is enhanced Wiki software (like this in-line glossary function) that is far more complex and sophisticated, with advanced data collection, display and reporting methods. It is able to make relationships in the presentation of data to the user in ways regular Internet applications cannot. ResultFormats Dl88008 (talk) 12:24, August 3, 2015 (CDT)
Dl88008 (talk)21:04, February 12, 2015

The only thing not working is me - becasue it is lunch time (here in Europe). And I add: Good work - Mr. Nerdy LeCroix.

Antony A Phillips (talk)10:39, February 14, 2015

Been notified today of an update on this - but can't see what the update is :-(

Antony A Phillips (talk)12:02, July 28, 2015

So its all done now except the pop-up thing. Well Done.

Antony A Phillips (talk)08:06, August 3, 2015
 
 
 

Mediawiki websites, like this one, have several built-in "skins" to choose from. Most wiki's use the same one Wikipedia uses called the "Vector" skin.(but users can choose from 4 or 5 others via their preferences link)

A skin, in wiki terminology, is the same idea as "templates" in Wordpress sites and it is the overall design and layout of the elements on pages.

There are a number of problems with the current default Vector skin we use:

  1. boring
  2. functional but 'old-fashioned'.- not a modern look
  3. not "responsive" i.e. doesn't display well on mobile devices and phones.

I've been planning to change the skin we use at Scientolipedia when/if I could acquire the skills to do so or recruit someone to do it for us. No one has come forward to do it for us so I installed a new skin on the site and am in the process of learning how to layout the Home page.

You can see this new skin over at http://freeheber.com where it's installed and running. (needs some tweaks and modifications but you can at least see how the navigation is moved to the very top of the page and various other differences.

You can also see how this site will look with this new skin by going to your 'preferences' (top of any page), select 'appearance' then select the "foreground" skin and save that (temporarily) as your default skin. Note the home page will have the layout messed up in this new skin (until the changes are made permanent) but you can go to any other page on the site to get an idea how much nicer the foreground skin is. (after you're done looking around go back to 'preferences' and revert to the 'Vector' skin so the site returns to the look you are used to.

I'm working on a new layout for the Home page and once that is done will change the site to have everyone using the Foreground skin. (there won't be any other options at that point)

The new skin will make visiting scientolipedia.org a better experience for everyone - especially those arriving via tablet or phone device (about 30% of site visitors currently - and expected to grow)

Your feedback is welcome!

Dave

Dl88008 (talk)20:55, March 1, 2015

Well Done - it has come through. Reminds of the days of my middle age, when now and again, newspapers changed their format involving much and some times heated discussion on whether it was a good idea or not. Of course it needs tweeking a bit. I like that dreary menu being replaced with neat items at the top. Need a bit more space around pictures. And particularly (though probably not part of the skin) Bevan Preece interview does not appear in one browser on my android tablet, and on the other something is there which flashed up "not supported" when you dare approach it. Probably not part of the skin, but the audios, especially the two hour Bevan Preece interview, need to show how many minutes you have got into it. I'd call the "skin-fit" a very well done.

Antony A Phillips (talk)18:39, March 11, 2015

Thanks for letting me know about the MP3 player not working. I added it to the to the list of repairs needed. (site could use a correction list)

Dl88008 (talk)20:47, March 11, 2015
 

We've reverted to the "Vector"(original) skin until some bugs in the "Foreground" skin can be worked out.

The display of pages and some features were not working in the new skin.

You can still use the Foreground skin by selecting in your preferences. (top of any page)

Dl88008 (talk)22:04, April 1, 2015
 

What is patrol and patrol log? (Comes in the log in lineThe military type of organization form whereby there is a definite ascending and descending chain of command. Orders pass from top management down the line of command and compliances and data pass on up without by-passing the chain of command. (Modern Management Defined (c) L. Ron Hubbard, 1976) when logged in under Admin links, and then (in the box) "Show patrol log")

Antony A Phillips (talk)10:58, February 16, 2015

A way of marking pages for admins. Wikipedia uses it but they have thousands of edits daily - we don't need it.

Dl88008 (talk)15:48, February 16, 2015

I saw one of mine was marked patrol when I edited some one else's page (http://scientolipedia.org/info/Clearbird ) So is that the idea - an edit of a page by someone "patrolling" for improving pages cosmetically, correcting spellings and seeing there is some sort of similarity about the set up of pages? Aren't we hoping for at least hundreds of edits daily in due course?

Antony A Phillips (talk)16:44, February 16, 2015

I've never used it - so now you know as much about it as I do. :-)

Dl88008 (talk)19:04, February 16, 2015

Thanks - I felt my ability to do the anti Q and A drill was being challenged. Now I just need to know who I can worry to death to find out. But maybe I have reached the border lineThe military type of organization form whereby there is a definite ascending and descending chain of command. Orders pass from top management down the line of command and compliances and data pass on up without by-passing the chain of command. (Modern Management Defined (c) L. Ron Hubbard, 1976) of making myself right and dominating over others and should shut up - with the background I have one is eternally afraid of possible ethics1. The rules or standards governing the conduct of the members of a profession. (HCO PL 3 May 72). 2. A system of removing the counter-effort to the forward push. (6711C18SO) :-)

Antony A Phillips (talk)18:01, February 17, 2015

Feel free to figure it out and see if it's something we should use. I happen to be up to my neck in alligators at the moment so can't really give the issue due attention.

Dl88008 (talk)21:03, February 17, 2015
 
 
 
 
 

Talk versus Discussion

In doing research for the entry I just made on Books - How to Choose Your People, I ran into the Talk page for the Wikipedia article on the Tone scale. Found it most interesting, particularly with regard to Wikipedias attitude and handling of Scientology. It is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tone_scale . I mention it here because up to now I had identified Wikipedias "Talk" with Scientolipedia's "Discussion" (because it is at the same place - rather woolly thinking, perhaps).

In fact in preparing http://scientolipedia.org/info/Books_–_Scientology_–_excluding_LRH_books I have referred to the discussion page, invited people to use it to discuss the best presentation of short summaries of non LRHL. Ron Hubbard books, and put two items in, thinking that its purpose was the same as Wikipedia's "Talk" page. So now I need to know what is the purpose of the "Discussion" page if it is different from Wikipedia's "Talk", and if it is different, where can I get to discuss the make up of a page giving brief details of non LRHL. Ron Hubbard Scientology books?

I might add that I do not feel that discussion (on a part of Scientology) is relevant to Scientolipedia. There are blogs and lists and forums and facebook, and god knows what next will duck up, but anything claiming to be a pedia, which I take to mean it is an encyclopedia of a certain area, should concern itself with facts, not discussion, and the only discussion would be about how best to communicate those facts, which is what I thought the talk page was about. I have a relatively large amount of data on non LRHL. Ron Hubbard Scientology books, not to mention other things experienced in 60 years contact with this (for some) accursed subject, and want to make it available on Internet, rather than have the whole world storming my flat to see and hear for themselves :-)

Antony A Phillips16:40, February 4, 2015

"Talk" and "Discussion" are the same thing and part of the built-in functionality of Mediawiki. (the software this site and wikipedia both use)

I renamed the "Talk" pages to "Discussion" just to give it a more friendly or perhaps familiar naming, so people would know what it's for.

If we, or wikipedia, had a group of academics creating this 'pedia', then perhaps there would be no need for mere mortals to discuss the various topics. We would simply read their learned works and move along.

Wikipedia and this site are collaborative ventures and the data comes from many contributors - hence the need for discussion.

Ever heard of Encarta? Microsoft tried to sell an encyclopedia that was a packaged work and it died a deserved death.

Wikipedia is the number five most traffick'd site on the Internet with millions of views each day. Victory for the collaboration idea. :-)

Dl8800818:03, February 4, 2015

Good. So I go on the way I am. Interesting on Encarta - just looked it up briefly. I have the DVD/computer Encyclopedia Britannica, which I update every few years for a few shillings (so to speak). Consider it slightly more reliable than Wikipedia, but Wikipedia probably more up to date with latest trends - all irrelevant here (this thread). Thanks for the data - so I hope to get some feedback under discussion.

PS: What does "bump this thread" with a tick in a box mean? (Under what I am writing now, before I save the page - we are in for a rocky ride? :-) )

Antony A Phillips19:09, February 4, 2015

bump puts it to the top of the list of threads.

Dl8800820:10, February 4, 2015
 
 
 

Keep Titles and URL's simple

Keeping title's of threads and page names simple helps people find the page or thread easier and also helps search engines display it easier too.

Page Title

Wrong: "The day I was walking down the street and talked to L Ron Hubbard about auditingThe application of Scientology processes and procedures to someone by a trained auditor. (Dianetics & Scientology Technical Dictionary (C) 1975) extraterrestrials"
Better: "L Ron Hubbard and Extraterrestrials"

Thread Title

Wrong: "Thinking about some way to show a picture on a page with a caption underneath"
Better: "Captions with images"

In both cases, the simpler title makes it easier for both computers (search engines) and humans to easily see what the thread or page is about.

Dl8800817:17, January 20, 2015

Signing your name

You can easily sign your name to a page by using tildes (~).

Three tildes ~~~ gives your login name like this - Dl88008

Four tildes ~~~~ gives your name and the date like this - Dl88008 07:19, January 20, 2015 (MST)

Note: This forum automatically inserts your username/login name at the end of each postA position from which a terminal operates in an org, where one knows that somebody is at. (FO 2200).

Dl8800814:19, January 20, 2015
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